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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

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  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Nathan Natas

  Cofty selected the subject line,

  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  Shouldn't that be

  The Watchtower am Right About Blood...?

  Respectfully,

  - The Obsever
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  What does CLAM stand for?

  by QuestioningEverything in

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  i've seen this in a few posts and not sure what it means.

  :) please help..

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  It is the same as TTATT, but for illiterates.
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  Watchtower & Guns

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  apparently jehalapeno isn't a 2nd amendment supporter either.... .

  july 17 questions from readers.... the way this part is worded screams cult to me, i was quite amused.. how a christian chooses to protect himself, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter, as is his choice of employment.. geee!

  thanks watchtower for allowing me to "largely chose my own employment" you are a generous cult lol.

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  freemindfade axed, "do these bodyguards carry guns or other weapons?"

  The Westinghouse M-27 Phased Plasma Pulse Pistol is favored for its power and concealability. It is said that a direct hit from one of these puppies can leave an angel stunned senseless for 15 minutes or longer.

  
  

  
  

  
  
  
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  “Well…it was a test”, says a laid-off Bethelite

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i got this account second hand.

  a former bethelite was reassigned to a local congregation.

  he had been at bethel for years and is now in his fifties.

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  I wonder if he has any theories about why Jah-wad would "test" him.

  Is he Job-like in his devotion to his imaginary friend?

  Would Job have said, stifling a weep, "It was a test"?

  Cheer up! At least you think you have the resurrection! Or will that prove to be a disappointment too?
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  Watchtower & Guns

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  apparently jehalapeno isn't a 2nd amendment supporter either.... .

  july 17 questions from readers.... the way this part is worded screams cult to me, i was quite amused.. how a christian chooses to protect himself, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter, as is his choice of employment.. geee!

  thanks watchtower for allowing me to "largely chose my own employment" you are a generous cult lol.

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  ...and yet, even as we speak, the members of the GB have bodyguards - not angelic, because you can never be sure when an invisible person has decided to take a dump, grab a smoke or some fish 'n chips - no, they have mere mortal Bethelites assigned to "take one for the Gipper" if necessary.

  I wonder how they make sure they aren't giving the job to one of the Bethel "prancing nancies" who will SCREECH! and run away if threatened?
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  Number of Muslims protesting London terrorist attack = ZERO. Number of Muslims protesting forced Mosque closure in France = HUNDREDS

  by kpop in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so it is now two days after another islamic terrorist attack.

  how many muslims are in the streets protesting and condemning this evil?

  how many are marching in all the big cities condemning this in mass protests?.

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  ...and if you say they're not peaceful, they'll kill you.

  Which leads me to wonder if there is an Arabic word for irony.
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  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.

  it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.

  they take pride in obedience.

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  Nathan Natas

  Cofty selected the subject line,

  The Watchtower are Right About Blood...

  Shouldn't that be

  The Watchtower am Right About Blood...?

  Respectfully,

  - The Obsever
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  Do You Trust The News Media?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  obviously, trump doesn't.

  but do you?

  do you think that they are generally fair, unbiased and honest?.

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  OUTLAW, I'll bet you find this either:

  A. Impossible to accept

  or

  B. Impossible to accept

  Here ya go --

  http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1274748

  It talks about how the Ruskies used a microwave-activated microphone to bug U.S. Ambassador Averell Harriman. It hung in the ambassador's Moscow residential office until 1952 when the State Department discovered that it was 'bugged.'

  Kellyanne may not be a glib technology expert, but I think she knows a lot more than you think she does.

  "Everybody laughed when I said 'microwaves.' They aren't laughing now."

  
  

  I'm going to guess that electronics is not your area of expertise, OUTLAW.
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  Do You Trust The News Media?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  obviously, trump doesn't.

  but do you?

  do you think that they are generally fair, unbiased and honest?.

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  Oh, come ON!

  We were Jehovah's Witnesses! We know this song by heart!!!

  WHO elected the News Media? NO ONE.

  In whose interest does the NEWS Media act? THEIR OWN.

  next question, please.
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  Were You Ever A True Believer?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was raised in the religion and for the most part believed that my religion was truth.

  i recognized some mistakes were occasionally made but felt that nobody is perfect.

  then i smartened up and realized how dumb so many of the beliefs are....was there ever a time that you truly believed you had the "truth"?.

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  Sure... I was 7 or 8 years old and completely dependent on the opinions offered by my mother and THE "infallible" ELDERS.*

  Even at that early age, I had the experience of cognitive dissonance as I realized that these "brightly shining ones" had no grasp of basic science that I was learning in school and from reading the Encyclopedia Britannica that was available in the Sunnnyside congregation's Kingdom Hall Library. I also had to square some lies I was told about how the WTB&TS had "scientists" who were doing "research" for the WTB&TS even now, on this side of Armageddon.

  So I grew up wading through this stinking swamp of foetid bullshit because the "most important thing" was vindicating Jeho-wad's Universal Sovereignty so that I could survive Armageddon and live forever in a Paradise Earth.

  The stench was overwhelming, but it is a funny thing -- after exposure to even the worst odors in existence, the nose will 'turn off' and the stink will no longer be noticed.

  On a spiritual level.

  Let the reader use discernment.

  Selah.

  *Even as a kid, it struck me that the WTB&TS was so eager to explain how fallible the Pope was while claiming infallibility for themselves.